Ukraine’s suicidal ‘offensive’ sent 1000’s to a terrible death, spurred on by UK ‘advisors’

The Ukrainian ‘Counteroffensive’ Was Destined To Fail – Today It Did So

2 by Moon of Alabama via via thefreeonline

The journalist Julian Roepcke supports Ukraine but insists on reporting facts in a neutral way

Saturday, 3 September, 2022 — Moon of Alabama

On August 24 the British prime minister Boris Johnson visited Kiev:

In comments made next to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the Mariyinsky Palace, Johnson said Ukraine “can and will win this war.”

The Ukrainian forces have no air defense or air attack capability to cover advancing troops. Its artillery capabilities are a tenth of what the Russian military can provide in the area. It was obvious from the beginning that this was a suicide mission.

Russia allowed Ukrainian forces to cross the river and advance south in open steppe before cutting them off.

Johnson’s visit was the start signal for the long announced Ukrainian ‘counteroffensive’ towards Kherson.

In early April Johnson had called on and visited Kiev to stop well developed peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine:

“Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement,” wrote Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”

The news highlights the impact of former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s efforts to stop negotiations, as journalist Branko Marcetic noted on Twitter.

How Britain Fueled Ukraine’s War Machine and Invited Direct Conflict with Russia

The decision to scuttle the deal coincided with Johnson’s April visit to Kyiv, during which he reportedly urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to break off talks with Russia for two key reasons: Putin cannot be negotiated with, and the West isn’t ready for the war to end.

Over the last months Britain has trained several thousands of Ukrainian troops and their officers. Together with Ukrainian special forces Britain’s MI-6 secret service planned a special operation for Ukraine to regain control over the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant on the south side of the Kakhovka Dnieper reservoir.

This was designed to coincide with a visit of IAEA inspectors, long held up by Ukraine, to visit the ZNPP.

The Kherson offensive started on August 30 on five axes. It was destined to fail. Three of these attempts to gain ground held by Russian troops failed. One axis was stopped after taking a few small villages of no strategic value. The only ‘successful’ attack was across the Inhulet river near Andriivka in the direction of the dam and river crossing that closes off the Kakhovka Dnieper reservoir.

The plan was crazy to begin with. The whole area is flat open steppe. The troops would have had to created a 50 kilometer (30 miles) long corridor through open hostile land. The towns on the way are mostly one or two street agricultural mini-villages with one story homes that offer little protection.

see also: Ukraine admits shelling area around nuclear plant

The Ukrainian forces have no air defense or air attack capability to cover advancing troops. Its artillery capabilities are a tenth of what the Russian military can provide in the area. It was obvious from the beginning that this was a suicide mission.

Reportedly the Ukrainian military command was against this mission. But the Ukrainian political leadership, the Zelenski regime, ordered it to proceed. It was under political pressure from its foreign supporters to show at least some success.

The attack was launched on August 30. The Ukrainian military created three river crossings over the Inhulet near Andriivka. This already smelled bad. Why didn’t the Russian airforce or artillery immediately destroy those crossings?

It was obvious that this was a trap.

In a CNN piece, co-written by the notorious ‘intelligence’ stenographer Natasha Bertrand, the U.S. military distanced itself from the upcoming catastrophe:

US wargamed with Ukraine ahead of counteroffensive and encouraged more limited mission – CNNPolitics

In the buildup to the current Ukrainian counteroffensive, the US urged Kyiv to keep the operation limited in both its objectives and its geography to avoid getting overextended and bogged down on multiple fronts, multiple US and western officials and Ukrainian sources tell CNN.

Those discussions involved engaging in “war-gaming” with Kyiv, the sources said — analytical exercises that were intended to help the Ukrainian forces understand what force levels they would need to muster to be successful in different scenarios.

The Ukrainians were initially considering a broader counteroffensive, but narrowed their mission to the south, in the Kherson region, in recent weeks, US and Ukrainian officials said.

Officials say they believe there is now increased parity between the Ukrainian and Russian militaries. But western officials have been hesitant to label the nascent Ukrainian operation — which appeared to begin on Monday in the southern province of Kherson — a true “counteroffensive.”

How successful Ukraine is likely to be in regaining lost territory remains an open question, sources familiar with the latest intelligence tell CNN.

For three days the Ukrainian military sent battalion after battalion into the salient. These were good professional troops trained by Britain. They were equipped with modernized Polish T-72 tanks and up-armored Dutch Infantry Fighting Vehicles (YPR-765 IFV).

But while these force were able to create a deeper salient it would soon become their grave.

As I wrote on September 1.

The Ukrainian Kherson offensive continues despite extremely heavy losses. The Rybar map shows one of the axes where the Ukrainian army still tries to press forward after having been rooted from Bruskyns’ke.

On September 1, the very day the IAEA delegation was to arrive, the Ukrainian side made a daring attack to seize the ZNPP. But the Russian side had been warned.

The two waves of Ukrainian special forces, also trained by Britain, were killed while crossing the reservoir or were running into ambushes as soon as they had landed. They ended up dead. The IAEA inspection proceeded as planned.

On 2nd Sept there was another major suicide attack on the power station while the inspectors were already in it: “

“Over 40 motor boats, divided into two groups and carrying over 250 Ukrainian special operations troops and foreign mercenaries, tried to land on the coast of the Kakhovka reservoir not far from Energodar, host city of the nuclear power plant, a ministry statement said on Saturday.The attackers were quickly spotted and struck by Russia’s Su-30 jets and Ka-52 attack helicopters. Those strikes sunk some 20 boats, while the rest turned around and retreated. The remaining Ukrainian troops were than targeted by the Russian artillery as they tried getting ashore in the Ukrainian-controlled territory, the ministry said”.

Jeffrey Kaye @jeff_kaye – 21:18 UTC · Sep 2, 2022

UN Secretary General’s spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said on Thursday:
“We are glad that the Russian Federation did all to keep our inspectors safe”!
I expect mainstream press to not report this.
Link to Interfax report

On the third day of the offensive the bridges across the Inhulet river where still intact. The Russian tactic was obvious. A scheme that it had used previously on the Karkiv front:

Will Schryver @imetatronink – 22:28 UTC · Sep 2, 2022

The truth of the Kherson “offensive” is written on the maps for all to see: AFU attacks; Ru hits ’em hard, then pulls back; AFU advances; Ru hits ’em again, but pulls back more; AFU adds forces to salient; Ru flanks them in force & cuts off their rear; trap closed; turkey shoot.

Late yesterday the Russian air force made its first real showing in this ‘counteroffensive’ affair. It attacked Ukrainian forces at the front of the salient in the tiny village of Bezimene with some 24 ‘dumb’ 500 kilogram bombs. This ended the existence of the village and of all Ukrainian forces in it.

The Russian airforce then proceeded to destroy all river crossings over the Inhulet.

The Ukrainian forces are trapped:

They have one choice. Give up, wave white flags or die.

Here is the current Rybar overview of the larger Kherson region. All Ukrainian attempts in this ‘counteroffensive’ have failed to make any significant progress.

The number of Ukrainian casualties are huge. Reports from Odessa, Nikolaev and Kryvy Rih speak of thousands of wounded. Many more have died. Hundreds of Ukrainian tanks and infantry fighting vehicles were destroyed or captured by Russian troops.

The 128th mountain assault brigade from the Ukrainian Transcarpatia region was involved in the general attack and got destroyed. (Why use ‘mountain assault’ specialists in the open steppe?) The governor of the region reportedly ordered a day of mourning.

The Russian side has now launched some attacks of its own to gain areas and towns the Ukrainians had held for some time. The Ukrainians are scrambling to mobilize local reserves in Nikolaev to counter these moves.

In ‘western’ media, complicit with the Zelenski regime, neither the bloody defeat of the ‘counteroffensive’ in Kherson nor the attempted raid on the ZNPP ever happened.

News we don’t want to hear, by Serge Halimi & Pierre Rimbert (Le Monde diplomatique – English edition, September 2022)(opens in a new tab)

The only mention of it I found in the New York Times is this:

In a statement, the [Russian defense] ministry claimed that Russian forces had intercepted two groups of Ukrainian commandos, up to 60 troops combined, who crossed the Dnipro River in boats to sabotage or seize the plant.

Barge attacks led to suicidal fiasco

(but Telegram channels detailed how up to 500 special troops on barges and launches attempted twice to seize the huge Nuclear Power station and were slaughtered)

In total the ‘counterattack’ on Kherson was a complete failure that predictably ended up destroying Ukraine’s main military reserves and a major part of the stock of heavy vehicles it had received from the ‘west’.

The ZNPP, which was the main ‘public relation’ target of the whole affair, is still in Russian hands and now secured by the presence of a permanent IAEA delegation.

bruno bertez @BrunoBertez – 7:27 UTC · 3 Sep 2022 

“The IAEA is there to stay for as long as it is needed. We are not leaving.” [IAEA director] Grossi said. “For those who may have intentions on the plant, knowing that international inspectors are there, witnessing and informing immediately what is happening, has an important stabilising effect.”

Heads in Kiev should and will likely roll over this. But that is not enough. Those in London who came up with this lunatic idea should be removed from their positions.

Meanwhile U.S. President Joe Biden has asked for $13.7 billion in additional money for Ukraine.

He wants to fight Russia down to the very last Ukrainian. A fight Russia does not want but is assured to win.

Can Biden be held to account for this?


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Russia “played a blinder”. Hard defence on the flanks and a ‘weak’ centre.Drawing the Ukrainian force into a killing ground.

Posted by: Bob | Sep 3 2022 10:53 utc | 1

Good, timely reporting, b, forwarding. The suppression of this story is astonishing, the MSM is in full David Copperfield mode.

Posted by: dadooronron | Sep 3 2022 10:54 utc | 2

LEAVE WHILE YOU CAN. Not when you have to.

Check for the easiest places to go. It’s the only place I know that provides so much information on one web page.

Some of you certainly have ties. But, if things get really bad in EU, UK, or US, wouldn’t it be nice — if it ever becomes necessary — to give your family or friends refuge somewhere else?

Just something to think about.

Posted by: dfg | Sep 3 2022 11:04 utc | 3

What is going on is neurotic/psychotic/insane. These news on one hand, and these “news” on the other.

What is the plan? Why is Ukraine commiting suicide like this? Why is the Ukranian army still listening to Zelensky? Why is the EU commiting suicide over Ukraine? Why do Europeans, and Germans in particular (?), still defend this? Why the hell is the US still behind this, even now when it’s clear that the Ukraine op is a giant blunder and people should be busy controlling the damage?

Back to the alcohol… any ideas on nice things to do? You can’t read news like this all the time…

Posted by: pachinko | Sep 3 2022 11:08 utc | 4

I would say, as a military leader, BoJo is indeed a lot like Winston Churchill. Both very belligerent and very incompetent. A plunger, out of his depth. Sad.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 3 2022 11:16 utc | 5

In early April Johnson had called on and visited Kiev to stop well developed peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine:

“Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement,” wrote Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”

If that’s true, thank God for Boris. The Russians really were going to chicken out in exchange for a Minsk III even more worthless than the first two?

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Sep 3 2022 11:17 utc | 6

excellent reporting, b.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 3 2022 11:18 utc | 7

In the end, Russia will be faced with a failed state on its border. Torn down slowly by the neoliberal economics of the IMF, the oligarchs, the Washington Consensus, etc. Then all at once by a war they had no chance of winning.

If these were indeed the last professional troops AFU had, then the way is open for a Russian occupation of the entire country. Which would be a humanitarian operation of the kind the US always claims for their aggression. But that would be expensive.

With the warning nobody can predict the Russian moves.

Posted by: jhill | Sep 3 2022 11:19 utc | 8

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 3 2022 11:16 utc | 5

at least Churchill didn’t leave Britain for a photo shoot in the US. but then he didn’t have a rich estate in Florida.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 3 2022 11:21 utc | 9

I don’t think anybody in a position of power in the US will hold Biden to account. I keep thinking of a general strike, but how to organize it, and how to support people living paycheck to paycheck? this isn’t going to end well.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 3 2022 11:23 utc | 10

at least Churchill didn’t leave Britain for a photo shoot in the US. but then he didn’t have a rich estate in Florida.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 3 2022 11:21 utc | 9

Both drunks too …

If you want to defend Winston as better than BoJo, that’s OK with me.

I suppose I should shutup, so I will now, we get too far afield from the topic, but it has always mystified me why the British say such nice things about Churchill, who was disastrous in all he did. I suppose they have different priorities.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 3 2022 11:28 utc | 11

All of this crap from the US, NATO, EU and Ukraine is going to spectacularly backfire when winter comes and people go bankrupt because they can’t afford heating, food, mortgage payments and so on. An economic nuclear holocaust is coming to Europe. Sad thing is that it was their sanctions that caused this, along with US foreign policy meddling in Ukraine since 2013.

Posted by: Kaiama | Sep 3 2022 11:29 utc | 12

They have done a fairly large push in a short amount of time and are still attacking from the north. It’s not over, Ukraine has decided to go all in on one small section of land. I expect the ukies to force tens of thousands to death and it will be hard for Russia to hold that land.

Posted by: OhhCanada | Sep 3 2022 11:31 utc | 13

From IntelSlava

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Dead Ukrainian SOF soldiers in Energodar after thet tried to capture Zaporozhye nuclear power plant

Graphic but it shows the UAF troops didn’t stand a chance

Posted by: Down South | Sep 3 2022 11:32 utc | 14

They keep the suicide attacks going. Looks like Bojo, Borel and the rest of gang are using the same white powder Zely is using.

“On September 2, at about 11.00 PM (Moscow time), two groups of a total of 42 cutters and motor boats with over 250 servicemen from special operation forces and foreign mercenaries on board made an attempt to disembark at the shore of Kakhovka reservoir near Energodar and Dneproprudnoye. The manpower was attacked by 4 Su-30 and 2 Ka-52 helicopters of Russian Aerospace Forces that has resulted in the elimination of 20 cutters and boats. The rest of the vessels turned back and headed towards the Ukrainian coast.”

Posted by: rk | Sep 3 2022 11:38 utc | 15

@Kaiama | Sep 3 2022 11:29 utc | 12

An economic nuclear holocaust is coming to Europe. Sad thing is that it was their sanctions that caused this, along with US foreign policy meddling in Ukraine since 2013.

Will the Zombies in Europe ever understand that this was caused by the criminal EU, UK and US?

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2022 11:39 utc | 16

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 3 2022 11:28 utc | 11

well, it’s a low bar, which both drunks should appreciate.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 3 2022 11:41 utc | 17

Great article plenty of facts but concase. Highly informative. I have a deep sadness but also utter contempt and disgust for Bojo MI6 & the other collective West warmongers that their gross incompetence lack of compassion and utter hubris is sending young and old forced conscripts to the meat grinder where they are and most certainly will meet certain death or severe life changing injuries. Zelensky needs to be arrested as the evil tyrant that he is and sent to the War crimes Tribunals. Either that or dragged to the front line to meet artillery fire.

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Sep 3 2022 11:41 utc | 18

From IntelSlava

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Ukrainian forces getting slaughtered in Kherson steppe

This video shows how flat the steppe is and how easy it was for Russian artillery to destroy the “counter-attack”. There really is no place for the UAF to hide.

Not as graphic as the previous video.

Posted by: Down South | Sep 3 2022 11:42 utc | 19

No Joe Biden will not be held to account. That is not the way it rolls in USofA. Many folks are not engaged with politics or government. Many are just trying to get through the day, and have not the time to wade through propaganda which is more prevalent (in my opinion) than ever in my 70 plus years. Please don’t assume all or even a majority of folks support USofA imperialism. We don’t. But those that don’t are ostracized if they speak up. So we don’t.
Good luck to all.

Posted by: horatio | Sep 3 2022 11:42 utc | 20

The Guardian reports:

Ukraine exploiting poor leadership in Russian military, says UK

Ukrainian forces have “likely achieved a degree of tactical surprise” with the ongoing counter-offensive, the UK’s Ministry of Defence has said.

“likely achieved a degree of tactical surprise”



Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2022 11:43 utc | 21

Posted by: horatio | Sep 3 2022 11:42 utc
the propaganda this time dwarfs that of the Vietnam War or the second Iraq War.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 3 2022 11:49 utc | 22

@Norwegian: My friends in Frankfurt-am-main are praying for a mild winter. I asked them if the chimney in their building still worked, and whether they had an axe to cut firewood. They confessed they had checked the location of the nearest civilian bunker in case war broke out, and checked they had an axe and a saw. They are worried, but don’t voice their opinions loudly because they are scared. At their work places everyone still supports Kiev. And my friends are from East Germany.

Posted by: Kaiama | Sep 3 2022 11:53 utc | 23

“Those in London who came up with this lunatic idea should be removed from their positions.”

In the American Civil war, the famous disaster of Pickett’s Charge happened when General Sir Arthur James Lyon Fremantle, military observer for England, nagged General Lee into ‘A Napoleonic charge.’ England was likely the cause of the Secession, or at least cheered it on, so he was listened to when the Confederate generals knew better. History repeats.

Posted by: jhill | Sep 3 2022 11:55 utc | 24

On the Ukrainian mountain assault brigade: Alexander Mercouris yesterday explained that the name comes from the fact that Transcarpathia, where these men come from, is a mountainous region — nothing to do with their training or expertise.

Posted by: Susan | Sep 3 2022 11:56 utc | 25

When I see names like Fiona Hill I think of someone from England who seems to have been co-opted into the Harvard Pentagon budget………….not many know that Harvard is one of the largest US defence contractors along with MIT and has a lot of sinecured positions for White House staffers – especially at Kennedy School

She is as untrustworthy as Johnson.

The fact is Germany is at war with Russia but cannot face up to the fact even though the Greens are obsessional – but they are funded from outside Germany.

Johnson is evil. He is demonstrably evil. He entertains people before he destroys them. He despises people especially women and treats them with abject contempt. He has neither respect nor love for women but seeks advantage and insinuates himself into people’s graces to disarm them.

The fact that is overlooked too often is the confluence of Dangerous Personalities at the same time – Biden is an old crotchety man on drugs; Scholz is a vacuity of low intellect who believes he is cunning; Macron is a narcissistic nonentity; a slew of female secretaries made in as Prime Minister of a series of nonentity countries

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 3 2022 12:01 utc | 26

Report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation on the territory of Ukraine as of September 3, 2022

🔻 The Kyiv regime continued unsuccessful attempts to gain a foothold in certain areas in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction.

▪️During the day of hostilities in this direction, the enemy lost 23 tanks, 27 infantry fighting vehicles, 14 other armored fighting vehicles, 9 pickup trucks with heavy machine guns and more than 230 military personnel.

▪️In addition, in the SERGEEVKA region of the Kherson region, Russian Aerospace Forces fighter aircraft shot down two Ukrainian Su-25 attack aircraft, and in the NOVOSELOVKA region of the Dnepropetrovsk region, a MiG-29 of the Ukrainian Air Force, converted to use HARM anti-radar missiles.

▪️High losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine led to an acute shortage of beds, medicines and blood supplies in the medical institutions of Nikolaev and the Nikolaev region, the department added. To identify and detain the increased number of deserters in Nikolaev, the number of military patrols has been increased and additional posts have been set up at the entrances to the city.

🔻The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue a special military operation in Ukraine.

▪️ The high-precision weapon of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit the temporary deployment point of the company tactical group of the 95th airborne assault brigade in the village of SLAVYANSK, Donetsk People’s Republic. More than a hundred Ukrainian servicemen and 14 units of armored and motor vehicles were destroyed.

▪️In the area of ​​​​the settlement of KONSTANTINOVKA of the Donetsk People’s Republic, concentrated fire strikes hit the points of temporary deployment of units of the 93rd mechanized brigade. Eliminated up to 120 militants and 11 units of military equipment.

🔻 Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile forces and artillery continue to strike at military facilities on the territory of Ukraine.

▪️During the day, 53 artillery units in firing positions, manpower and military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were hit in 157 districts. Six ammunition depots were destroyed in the areas of the settlements of VELIKOYE ARTAKOVO, Voznesensk in the Mykolaiv region, NUTS in the Zaporozhye region, MELOVAYA in the Kharkiv region, KURAKHOVO and KRAMATORSK in the Donetsk People’s Republic, as well as the fuel depot of the 60th Infantry Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the region of KRAMATORSK.

▪️In the area of ​​​​KONSTANTINOVKA of the Donetsk People’s Republic, a launcher of a US-made HIMARS multiple launch rocket system with an ammunition transport vehicle, as well as up to 30 combat crew members, was destroyed.

▪️ Russian air defense systems shot down three unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of the settlements of VOLNOVAKHA, NOVOPAVLOVKA of the Donetsk People’s Republic, including Bayraktar-TB2 in the area of ​​KAKHOVKA, Kherson region.

▪️Three tactical missiles “Tochka-U” were destroyed in the air in the areas of CHERVONY MAYAK, CHERNOBAEVKA and TYAGINKA of the Kherson region, as well as 60 shells of multiple launch rocket systems, including 44 – HIMARS MLRS, 12 – “Alder”, 4 – “Hurricane” » in the areas of the settlements of ANTONOVKA, BERISLAV, NOVAYA KAKHOVKA, SAGI of the Kherson region, crossings in the area of ​​​​the Darevsky bridge, KAPITOLOVKA, KUPYANSK, KAMENKA of the Kharkiv region and TOKMAK of the Zaporozhye region

▪️In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 286 aircraft, 151 helicopters, 1867 unmanned aerial vehicles, 372 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4776 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 824 combat vehicles of multiple launch rocket systems, 3366 field artillery guns and mortars, and also 5250 units of special military vehicles.

🔻Despite the presence of representatives of the IAEA at the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, the Kyiv regime once again attempted to seize the nuclear power plant.

▪️ On September 2, at about 23:00 Moscow time, two groups of boats and motor boats with a total number of 42 units with a landing force of over 250 people from among the special operations forces and foreign mercenaries attempted to land on the coast of the Kakhovka reservoir in the region of ENERGODAR and DNEPRORUDNY.

▪️The Russian Air Force attacked by four Su-30s and two Ka-52 helicopters, as a result of which 20 boats and boats were destroyed. The rest of the boats and boats turned around and left in the direction of the Ukrainian coast.

▪️Russian artillery, including howitzers of high power “Malka”, struck at the Ukrainian part of the coast in the areas of the settlements of Vyshetarasovka, CHERVONODNEPROVKA, where the remnants of the landing force came ashore.

▪️According to available information, during the failed provocation, Ukrainian nationalists lost 47 militants killed, including 10 foreign mercenaries, 23 wounded.

Posted by: Summary | Sep 3 2022 12:01 utc | 27

You have to wonder what will happen if Dizzy Ms Lizzy (Truss) succeeds BoJo as UK Prime Minister. Will she too become a frequent flyer to “Keeev”, once she learns that Poland borders the Baltic and not the Black Sea, and become President Zelensky’s close personal military advisor?

As for BoJo himself, at a loose end, I hear Jens Stoltenberg will soon be vacating the position of NATO Secretary-General. The mind boggles at the thought of BoJo replacing Stoltenberg, now that Kaja Kallas has formed a new govt in Estonia and become Prime Minister again. BoJo, Truss and Zelensky – what an unholy trinity they will be!

Posted by: Jen | Sep 3 2022 12:02 utc | 28

Thanks for the update, b. It helps make sense of what has been happening on the Kherson front, where the ‘incompetent, poorly-led'(as the MSM keep telling us) Russians seem to have outsmarted the Ukrainian attack – more through the fault of the Kiev politicians than their military, as you point out.

I would have just one quibble – where you include a quote about a negotiated interim settlement on the brink of being made in April: “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.” I find it unlikely that Russia would have made any agreement, even interim, which did not include the complete liberation of the LPR and DPR, which they had recognised just two days before the start of the SMO.

Regarding the future, it should be recalled that in his speech announcing the SMO last February, Putin specifically and pointedly mentioned the Odessa massacre on May 2, 2014, and promised to bring the perpetrators to justice. If anyone has learned anything from Putin’s presidency, it should be that he does not indulge in idle talk – in fact, he has frequently complained that he has not been listened to by Western leaders. I would be very surprised if the liberation of Odessa were not one of Russia’s strategic objectives.

One last point – I hope this thread is not hijacked, like other recent threads, by long-winded, repetitive OT discussions (the Jews, the DNA of Jews, Republicans v. Democrats, the definition of facism, the lifespan of empires, who is a troll and what to do about it, etc., etc., etc.)

Posted by: B. Wildered | Sep 3 2022 12:02 utc | 29

Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2022 11:43 utc | 21

British MoD is farcical. It has a top-heavy military with a bloated caste of generals all going to the office in civilian uniforms to shuffle paper and attend conferences. It is run by nonentity ministers who sign off on bloated contracts to fund their retirement jobs at BAe or some private equity defence conglomerate.

Modern Britain is like Italy – there was an empire in there somewhere – some of the buildings are there – but Rome is no more

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 3 2022 12:04 utc | 30


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